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		<title>By: Maurice Scott</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Blevins</title>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<description>The intimidated coward added you as a friend on Facebook :)

I&#039;m going to post about the Facebook project either tomorrow or the next day. Enough people responded that I might do a couple projects. Or, the same project, but with two different teams.

You&#039;re a very non-MS guy. You&#039;re also a complete nut. From what I&#039;ve read here, you also seem like you&#039;re a lot of fun. Those things make me want to nab you for one of the teams. It&#039;d be fun to get out of MS-land. I haven&#039;t done paid Java work since 2003. I dug it at the time, but mainly because I was working on a traditional ASP site, and I *hate* ASP. ASPX rocks, but ASP - with all that scripting garbage - is unappealing to me to the maximum.

I&#039;d like to see the different solutions to the same project done with different tools, languages, and frameworks. For all I know, there&#039;s some extremely cool stuff going on in the Java world that I&#039;ve been missing out on.

I&#039;ve done Java work for OS X (the best Java client platform in the universe before Apple stopped improving the dev experience), the iSeries (AS400 - also a great Java implementation with an awesome VM as well as the fancy compiler they&#039;ve got over there), WebSphere on iSeries and Windows, Linux (got good by Java 1.4), and with some of the limited Java and Java-like tools available for Windows CE/Windows Mobile.

Did client work, web work, back-end work...

Aesthetically, .Net and C# appeal to me much more, as Java has a lot of baggage (the Java way is to write your own framework before the app - the MS way is to take the kitchen sink and run with it).

The challenge for me would be to find beauty in Java. Before C# and .Net, it was, by far, my favorite little dev world. I&#039;d love to find it beautiful again, but I&#039;d need help.

A guide, you know?

Maybe... someone like you, eh?

Haven&#039;t decided yet, but it *would* be teh awesome.

&#039;Night, mister - sorry about all the techie malfunctions you&#039;ve experienced recently. When I post nowadays, I always Select-All, Copy, and Paste my work into at least one other text editor. I&#039;m even doing it with this comment.

The pain of losing that perfect bit of writing that you won&#039;t be able to reproduce is agonizing. I&#039;m there with you. Not just sympathy - its upgrade, empathy, is going on here, too.

Tah.

- Moi</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m going to post about the Facebook project either tomorrow or the next day. Enough people responded that I might do a couple projects. Or, the same project, but with two different teams.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a very non-MS guy. You&#8217;re also a complete nut. From what I&#8217;ve read here, you also seem like you&#8217;re a lot of fun. Those things make me want to nab you for one of the teams. It&#8217;d be fun to get out of MS-land. I haven&#8217;t done paid Java work since 2003. I dug it at the time, but mainly because I was working on a traditional ASP site, and I *hate* ASP. ASPX rocks, but ASP &#8211; with all that scripting garbage &#8211; is unappealing to me to the maximum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the different solutions to the same project done with different tools, languages, and frameworks. For all I know, there&#8217;s some extremely cool stuff going on in the Java world that I&#8217;ve been missing out on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done Java work for OS X (the best Java client platform in the universe before Apple stopped improving the dev experience), the iSeries (AS400 &#8211; also a great Java implementation with an awesome VM as well as the fancy compiler they&#8217;ve got over there), WebSphere on iSeries and Windows, Linux (got good by Java 1.4), and with some of the limited Java and Java-like tools available for Windows CE/Windows Mobile.</p>
<p>Did client work, web work, back-end work&#8230;</p>
<p>Aesthetically, .Net and C# appeal to me much more, as Java has a lot of baggage (the Java way is to write your own framework before the app &#8211; the MS way is to take the kitchen sink and run with it).</p>
<p>The challenge for me would be to find beauty in Java. Before C# and .Net, it was, by far, my favorite little dev world. I&#8217;d love to find it beautiful again, but I&#8217;d need help.</p>
<p>A guide, you know?</p>
<p>Maybe&#8230; someone like you, eh?</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t decided yet, but it *would* be teh awesome.</p>
<p>&#8216;Night, mister &#8211; sorry about all the techie malfunctions you&#8217;ve experienced recently. When I post nowadays, I always Select-All, Copy, and Paste my work into at least one other text editor. I&#8217;m even doing it with this comment.</p>
<p>The pain of losing that perfect bit of writing that you won&#8217;t be able to reproduce is agonizing. I&#8217;m there with you. Not just sympathy &#8211; its upgrade, empathy, is going on here, too.</p>
<p>Tah.</p>
<p>- Moi</p>
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